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ryan? ryan: joe and i are from similar town. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? biden: i sure do. ryan: it's 10%. do you know what it was the day you came in? 8.5%. biden: look, that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> moderator: his two-minute answer, please. ryan ryan look -- [laughter] do they come in and inherit a tough situation? absolutely. we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. it's growing at 1.3%. that's slower than it grew last year, and last year was slower than the year before. job growth in september was slower than it was in august, and august was slower than it was this july. we're heading in the wrong direction. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are living in poverty today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what mitt romney and i proposing. it's a five-poin
ryan? ryan: joe and i are from similar town. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? biden: i sure do. ryan: it's 10%. do you know what it was the day you came in? 8.5%. biden: look, that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> moderator: his two-minute answer, please. ryan ryan look -- [laughter] do they come in and inherit a tough situation? absolutely. we're going in the wrong direction. look at...
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congressman ryan even said this is finally the legislation that we have been waiting for. in his proposal for defense spending would cost some $2 trillion over ten years, that's $2 trillion in additional spending. this is spending the pentagon hasn't asked for, and it's also spending that isn't paid for. i know big bird's gotten a lot of attention lately, but that one offset couldn't possibly yield enough to pay for the collection of new ships, planes and troops. but even more troubling there's been no discussion about what the strategy is that the increased spending is designed to support. are the additional funds to support a two-front war to combat, perhaps, his number one geopolitical foe, to engage in long-term stability and nation building? the answer is, we don't know. and the governor's speeches haven't shed any light on key fundamental questions about security, about america's role in the world, about american power and how we should stand up for the moderate forces fighting for freedom and aspirations across the middle east. these aren't trick questions, these ar
congressman ryan even said this is finally the legislation that we have been waiting for. in his proposal for defense spending would cost some $2 trillion over ten years, that's $2 trillion in additional spending. this is spending the pentagon hasn't asked for, and it's also spending that isn't paid for. i know big bird's gotten a lot of attention lately, but that one offset couldn't possibly yield enough to pay for the collection of new ships, planes and troops. but even more troubling there's...
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paul ryan deserves the noble pize prase for not beating her up. center of bunt you're smiling because you know about this. >> i do. 62% of the savings in your budget could come from outing can programs for the poor. that gene 8 and 10 million people will be kicking off of food stamp naps you could cut medicare by $200 billion and medicare and other health care programs like $770 billion. where the em pat think. do you acknowledge that poor people will suffer under the budget. no. >> you have shown a lack of em pat em pa think to poor people. >> any one of these champions of journalistic ontivity and intellectual could have won tonight's dambisa you conservative to hell award. and behind them stand another -- thank you. and behind them stand another dozen who could have qualified if our limitations. but the judges had to choose only one and choose they did. the winner of the 2012damn conservatives to hell award goes to a new car. no. goes to -- the woman who believes paul ryan is some kind of underweight loser with better hair out to destroy the wo
paul ryan deserves the noble pize prase for not beating her up. center of bunt you're smiling because you know about this. >> i do. 62% of the savings in your budget could come from outing can programs for the poor. that gene 8 and 10 million people will be kicking off of food stamp naps you could cut medicare by $200 billion and medicare and other health care programs like $770 billion. where the em pat think. do you acknowledge that poor people will suffer under the budget. no. >>...
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it was paul ryan and the congress. let's get that clear once and for all. >> guest: i do think that one of the issues that people are going to be making is the question of leadership at large. that is why we hold a lot at hand governor romney about leadership and what kind of a role for america and the world is obama suggesting, and by extension, but leadership is playing out here at home in guiding and shaping how we use our national resources. i do think that the polls might not register that significance in particular foreign-policy issues, but when it comes to that broader question of leadership, that is a part of what people are going to be talking about in casting their votes on. and there is an opportunity as romney's team has identified to suggest criticisms of obama as a leader. >> host: president obama was in california last night at a fundraiser and commented on mitt romney's foreign policy speech. let's take a listen. >> governor romney has a different view. he says with a tragic day in the war in iraq. he
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>> it shows you that paul ryan -- excuse me, paul ryan is a policy monk. he is a man that wantss to with details. he wants to in facts and figures. he likes to do that. you can do that as certain degree in the debate you have have to be fast and get them in and make them punchy and get out. one of the things we're forgetting in the discussion of the upcoming debate, there is an incumbent here. the vice president is the incumbent. and therefore in debates, incumbents usually have records who causes -- the mod ray moderator's job is to ask question that deal with the performance of the person who is the incumbent. we did not see that in the presidential debate because of the fact that jim wanted to keep it wide open. rather than ask pointed questions about what the president has done over the last four years, he asked the question what are your differences between the two things the two policy. what are your differences on social security? and we didn't get that kind of contrast. i'm wondering for the debate moderator this time will ask questions of biden th
>> it shows you that paul ryan -- excuse me, paul ryan is a policy monk. he is a man that wantss to with details. he wants to in facts and figures. he likes to do that. you can do that as certain degree in the debate you have have to be fast and get them in and make them punchy and get out. one of the things we're forgetting in the discussion of the upcoming debate, there is an incumbent here. the vice president is the incumbent. and therefore in debates, incumbents usually have records...
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ryan, at the economist. two quick questions. i guess first, practically speaking what's the difference between a policy in which you try to use lsaps to raise real growth and also react more slowly to inflation after the recovery sort of strengthens, and a policy of trying to get out more inflation. second while there certain risks in the short term, given the costs and risk of the zero lower bound is another case to be made that we want number raised to be a bit higher in the long run? >> suffers part of the question, again i disagree with the premise of ginning up, what we're doing is ginning up or seeking to gin up inflation. let me try and explain to you how i think of the reaction function and why you might make a statement like it would make sense to keep rates low for fora considerable time. it's precisely because, nothing to do with inflation, it's precisely because we have talked about how life is difficult near the zero lower bound. policy doesn't work as well or there are various costs. so it is a bad place to be. tha
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it has happened but -- what what are you talking about as he voted twice on the ryan budget that does the same thing and it moved us to a voucher system. [inaudible] boswell: i don't think you or you or i could go out there -- and get through this cost of trying to find insurance to cover it and the insurance -- current would increase it by 60. we can do better than that. moderate. >> moderator: go ahead. latham: congressman boswell voted for what he calls vouchers back in 2003 and this was a house-passed version of the prescription drug plan that he voted for that has the same kind of premium support and that he now claims are vouchers and it went over to the senate, to conference and that was taken out and then he voted against it so it must have been good enough for him to change his vote at that time because he was for the vouchers that he says and now -- >> moderator: what is your response? boswell: are you talking about the pharmaceuticals that created the big doughnut hole that you voted for? i didn't vote for that all-night session when the leaders came to the floor and twiste
it has happened but -- what what are you talking about as he voted twice on the ryan budget that does the same thing and it moved us to a voucher system. [inaudible] boswell: i don't think you or you or i could go out there -- and get through this cost of trying to find insurance to cover it and the insurance -- current would increase it by 60. we can do better than that. moderate. >> moderator: go ahead. latham: congressman boswell voted for what he calls vouchers back in 2003 and this...
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ryan is the second coming. he came off as a confident, detail oriented plausible president. i think you just cleared that. >> that's the definition of what schumacher and number two. >> we are differing. john was asking this question about was a passable or strong performance? you and i were disagreeing a little bit. >> he was possible. i saw most you can hope for. he starts rushing. if i'd been prepping them, how would i feel? he didn't house any groups. >> to push her on the spot, what did we were right when there was an okay jerry, almost a situation when there is a focus group. you want to hear breakout people who don't have the same screw loose tummy about the analysis and the thinking right now of what's right. >> in terms of reality, what does the public actually think. these are frustrating because we never really get for 48 hours, until 48 hours what people really thought, where we get the first wave of people like us. those tend to be impressionistic reactions rather than substantive ones. and we get
ryan is the second coming. he came off as a confident, detail oriented plausible president. i think you just cleared that. >> that's the definition of what schumacher and number two. >> we are differing. john was asking this question about was a passable or strong performance? you and i were disagreeing a little bit. >> he was possible. i saw most you can hope for. he starts rushing. if i'd been prepping them, how would i feel? he didn't house any groups. >> to push her...
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i feel like paul ryan was very script. this is the way they've been training him for the last two weeks or however long it i felt like he knew what he was talking about. >> joe biden came across a cranky old man, unlikable, unpresidential. he was nearing, he was rude, taking over and out of turn. very disruptive, laughing, grimacing, smirking, shaking his head, pointing the finger, you seem a tone of voice. he spoke more than ryan did by over a minute, almost two minutes more. >> i really enjoyed this debate. it was so much more substantial in the way it was handled by the moderator. i.e. i'm an independent, but i'm probably going to vote for the president again and i just don't really like the way that romney and ryan are so conservative. >> i think brian's closing statement was far superior to biden. >> biden was able to speak out more. biden was sent out loud as long of a period of time as paul ryan weiss. and i suggest that when obama comes back again, he takes is some alarm clock so we can see who is talking more. >>
i feel like paul ryan was very script. this is the way they've been training him for the last two weeks or however long it i felt like he knew what he was talking about. >> joe biden came across a cranky old man, unlikable, unpresidential. he was nearing, he was rude, taking over and out of turn. very disruptive, laughing, grimacing, smirking, shaking his head, pointing the finger, you seem a tone of voice. he spoke more than ryan did by over a minute, almost two minutes more. >> i...
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>> thursday, paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only to paid, abc news martha bad is moderates from dental kentucky, and you can watch and engage in c-span with her live debate preview start at 7 p.m. eastern followed by the debate at nine and your reaction, calls, e-mails and tweets at 10:30 p.m. spent c-span campaign 2012 debate on the website provides live and on-demand coverage of all the presidential and vice presidential debates and it's the only place where you will see our live coverage of behind the scenes sites and sounds before and after the debates. aside as each debate question available as a separate clip where you can search and watch my topic. watch your creative clips as well and read streaming tweets from political reporters and other viewer reactions at c-span.org/debates. >> up next to find of a new public opinion poll in american attitudes toward arabs and muslims. this was conducted following recent violent protests in the arab world that erupted in response to a film denigrating islam. the "al arabiya news" channel d.c. bureau chief as a part of this 90 m
>> thursday, paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only to paid, abc news martha bad is moderates from dental kentucky, and you can watch and engage in c-span with her live debate preview start at 7 p.m. eastern followed by the debate at nine and your reaction, calls, e-mails and tweets at 10:30 p.m. spent c-span campaign 2012 debate on the website provides live and on-demand coverage of all the presidential and vice presidential debates and it's the only place where you will see...
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the ryan budget it takes up to 25 years. the more jobs we have, the more jobs we create, the more we vote to increase the amount of jobs, the faster the deficit will go down. i think we should be able to push from anything to 25 plus. we better have a goal. >> moderator: what about a time frame, congresswoman sutton? sutton: as i said, i would tie the deficit reduction timeline to drops in unemployment. my opponent says that he's not about raisings taxes. he's essential not about allowing those tax cuts for the super wealthy to expire. that same budget that same budget that protects those tax cuts puts a hard hit on our working family and drives up cost for our seniors. it ends medicare as we know it. turning it in to a vowture program. the independent estimates show that it could cost the seniors up to 4eu6d 00 on average under that budget. i think that those at the top need to pay a fair share so that all the burden doesn't fall on our working families and our seniors. >> moderator: thank you. along the lines of finance an
the ryan budget it takes up to 25 years. the more jobs we have, the more jobs we create, the more we vote to increase the amount of jobs, the faster the deficit will go down. i think we should be able to push from anything to 25 plus. we better have a goal. >> moderator: what about a time frame, congresswoman sutton? sutton: as i said, i would tie the deficit reduction timeline to drops in unemployment. my opponent says that he's not about raisings taxes. he's essential not about allowing...
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her guest was paul ryan. listen as she prattles off a series of talking points from a very official sounding and therefore trustworthy impartial organization. unfortunately though it isn't. just another far left pro-obama outfit. listen as she demands paul ryan admit his budget will hurt poor people, that everyone will suffer, that as a matter of fact he doesn't even like poor people. paul ryan deserves the nobel peace prize for not beating her around the hid and neck with a semifrozen flounder. >> budget and policy priorities, you're smiling you know about this. >> i do. >> 62% of the savings in our budget would come from cutting programs for the poor. that between eight and 10 million people would be kicked off of food stamps. that you would cut medicare by 200 billion. medicare and other health programs by something like 770 billion. where is the empathy in this budget? do you acknowledge that poor people will suffer under this budget? >> no. >> that you have shown a lack of empathy to poor people in this
her guest was paul ryan. listen as she prattles off a series of talking points from a very official sounding and therefore trustworthy impartial organization. unfortunately though it isn't. just another far left pro-obama outfit. listen as she demands paul ryan admit his budget will hurt poor people, that everyone will suffer, that as a matter of fact he doesn't even like poor people. paul ryan deserves the nobel peace prize for not beating her around the hid and neck with a semifrozen...
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ryan. the hour-long program starts with an update from politico senior political reporter jonathan martin on how and where the vice presidential candidates are preparing for thursday's debate. >> from the u.s. constitution, the vice president of the united states shall be president of the senate but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided. in case of removal of the president from office or of his death or resignation, the vice president shall become president. the office of the vice presidency really an afterthought, a compromise from the philadelphia convention in 1787 but all eyes on vice president joe biden this week and congressman paul ryan as they debate in danville, kentucky. joining us is jonathan martin is been writing about this debate for politico. thanks for being with us. how important is this debate in light of what was the last week in denver? >> steve, i think he touched on the biggest reason why this debate could be more important than these under cards typically
ryan. the hour-long program starts with an update from politico senior political reporter jonathan martin on how and where the vice presidential candidates are preparing for thursday's debate. >> from the u.s. constitution, the vice president of the united states shall be president of the senate but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided. in case of removal of the president from office or of his death or resignation, the vice president shall become president. the office of the...
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you say begins in 2013 and does cut in to medicare and social security, the paul ryan-type approach. >> guest: exactly. >> host: you see this as part of a grand conspiracy? >> guest: it certainly a grand plan, because the thing we see in most of many of the wealthy, not all, by the way, we need to emphasize that. not all. warren buffet is in a totally different position. what we see may not like to pay taxes. they do not want any government programs of any sort. the less governments so you. the means fewer takes you have. it's a basically a simple approach let the market work and everybody go about their business. what we're worried about is how intellectual a lot of these advertisements are being. they already announced in the case of the swing state they're going pump in millions and millions of dollars and in pennsylvania, for example, the pitch is going portraying obama as a just a disaster? terms of the deficit. you may not like obama, you may not like his program, you may have a different way of looking at the way the country should run, but obama as the creator of the deficit?
you say begins in 2013 and does cut in to medicare and social security, the paul ryan-type approach. >> guest: exactly. >> host: you see this as part of a grand conspiracy? >> guest: it certainly a grand plan, because the thing we see in most of many of the wealthy, not all, by the way, we need to emphasize that. not all. warren buffet is in a totally different position. what we see may not like to pay taxes. they do not want any government programs of any sort. the less...
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>> congressman paul ryan and vice-president joe biden will face off in their only debate. abc news much erratic moderates. you can watch and engaged with c-span with our live debate preview at 7:00 p.m. eastern followed by two ways to watch the beta nine on c-span both candid sunscreen the entire debate. on c-span2, the multi camera version of the debate of followed by calls, e-mails, and treats. follow live coverage on c-span, c-span radio, an online at c-span.org. >> his company did the federal reserve a favor by buying the financial firm bear stearns four years ago. bear stearns was near collapse. his bank lost 5-$10 billion as a result of the purchase. his remarks came during a discussion today with the president of the council on foreign relations. >> i want to welcome all the to the council on foreign relations. today speaker ceo, part of the council on foreign relations corporate program which is supposed said increase the connections between the business community and the foreign policy community which is some extent are one in the same. i also want to thank -- wel
>> congressman paul ryan and vice-president joe biden will face off in their only debate. abc news much erratic moderates. you can watch and engaged with c-span with our live debate preview at 7:00 p.m. eastern followed by two ways to watch the beta nine on c-span both candid sunscreen the entire debate. on c-span2, the multi camera version of the debate of followed by calls, e-mails, and treats. follow live coverage on c-span, c-span radio, an online at c-span.org. >> his company...
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in part because of paul ryan who was on the commission and then voted against proposal. finish secondly, you're still up against the basic problem that if ryan had, in fact, voted for the simpson-bowles proposals and if they had gotten through congress with president obama's support, obama would get the credit. and he would be waltzing to, you know, a piece of cake re-election. so i do think -- and there's, actually, a third problem should be mentioned. peter orszag, the former head of the budget bureau, wrote an op-ed in "the new york times" saying, basically, contra my own instincts the problem with the united states is that there's too much democracy. we can't get anything done if we actually try to do it through elections and democratic procedures. what we need are ever more expert commissions that will make decisions for us. now, maybe that's true. but it should be recognized that if that is the solution to our problems, then we should stop prattling to other countries around the world that what they need is more democracy. because, in fact, we would have come to th
in part because of paul ryan who was on the commission and then voted against proposal. finish secondly, you're still up against the basic problem that if ryan had, in fact, voted for the simpson-bowles proposals and if they had gotten through congress with president obama's support, obama would get the credit. and he would be waltzing to, you know, a piece of cake re-election. so i do think -- and there's, actually, a third problem should be mentioned. peter orszag, the former head of the...
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walker, governor of wisconsin, resists the recall, but he really hated teachers and people like paul ryan, well, he just wants to push grandma over the cliff and whale she's going over the -- while she's going over the cliff, feed her, if she's lucky, a little kibble and bits. this is what they want people to think of really incredibly productive and intelligent conservatives. and it's so over the top that it's ludicrous. now, barack obama as you know is the opposite of all of those things. he loves puppies, he loves people, e loves rainbows -- he loves rainbows, and's a total romantic. this man knows how to wine and dine his wife. unfortunately for us, it's usually on our tax dollars. but he can do no wrong, even after this ridiculous record, this incredible damage that's been done to the united states. none of it matters because the infatuation has turned into a full-blown affair that the media has had with him. now, i know we're going to have audience participation at the end of the program, but as far as i'm concerned, you should feel perfectly welcome to use your noisemakers to let t
walker, governor of wisconsin, resists the recall, but he really hated teachers and people like paul ryan, well, he just wants to push grandma over the cliff and whale she's going over the -- while she's going over the cliff, feed her, if she's lucky, a little kibble and bits. this is what they want people to think of really incredibly productive and intelligent conservatives. and it's so over the top that it's ludicrous. now, barack obama as you know is the opposite of all of those things. he...
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vice president biden has a campaign rally in wisconsin tomorrow and congressman ryan through ohio for rallies tomorrow and saturday and then it's off to minnesota for a fund-raiser. then he returns to his home state of wisconsin on sunday. >> four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost in the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financial system had frozen up and because of the resilience and the determination of the american people we have begun to fight our way back or go. >> the president has a view similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will trickle down government, would work. that is not the right answer for america. i will restore the vitality that gets america working again. >> now will look at the role of the spending by super pacs in this years election. we will hear from reporters with "the new york times," npr and the former chairman of the federal election commission. from the lower east side tenement
vice president biden has a campaign rally in wisconsin tomorrow and congressman ryan through ohio for rallies tomorrow and saturday and then it's off to minnesota for a fund-raiser. then he returns to his home state of wisconsin on sunday. >> four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost in the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financial system had frozen up and because of the resilience and the...
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to do tax reform and entitlement reform and his deputy, the majority leader, calls people like paul ryan, who is now running for vice president. .. >> if you keep doing this, you are going to risk your speakership. the president said when i talked to him, interestingly enough, he said in fixing -- he realizes the magnitude of all of this, as does speaker boehner, key democrats, key republicans realize what it is. and the president literally said to me, i would willingly lose an election if i could solve these problems. it is that serious. tim geithner, the treasury secretary, in the book is quoted thousands of words telling the president, you have got to do something about this problem. we have to fix it. you literally, it's not that we're going to close down the government, we will close down the american economy and, in turn, the global economy. if they do not solve the issue of this runaway spending, get some way to stop borrowing in excess, he tells the president of the united states if we default on this, on our obligations and our ious, we will trigger a depression worse than the 1
to do tax reform and entitlement reform and his deputy, the majority leader, calls people like paul ryan, who is now running for vice president. .. >> if you keep doing this, you are going to risk your speakership. the president said when i talked to him, interestingly enough, he said in fixing -- he realizes the magnitude of all of this, as does speaker boehner, key democrats, key republicans realize what it is. and the president literally said to me, i would willingly lose an election...
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you say begins in 2013 and does cut in to medicare and social security, the paul ryan-type approach. >> guest: exactly. >> host: you see this as part of a grand conspiracy? >> guest: it certainly a grand plan, because the thing we see in most of many of the wealthy, not all, by the way, we need to emphasize that. not all. warren buffet is in a totally different position. what we see may not like to pay taxes. they do not want any government programs of any sort. the less governments so you. the means fewer takes you have. it's a basically a simple approach let the market work and everybody go about their business. what we're worried about is how intellectual a lot of these advertisements are being. they already announced in the case of the swing state they're going pump in millions and millions of dollars and in pennsylvania, for example, the pitch is going portraying obama as a just a disaster? terms of the deficit. you may not like obama, you may not like his program, you may have a different way of looking at the way the country should run, but obama as the creator of the deficit?
you say begins in 2013 and does cut in to medicare and social security, the paul ryan-type approach. >> guest: exactly. >> host: you see this as part of a grand conspiracy? >> guest: it certainly a grand plan, because the thing we see in most of many of the wealthy, not all, by the way, we need to emphasize that. not all. warren buffet is in a totally different position. what we see may not like to pay taxes. they do not want any government programs of any sort. the less...
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then at 5:40 eastern, mitt romney and paul ryan hold a campaign rally in lancaster, ohio. our live coverage from the lancaster town center on c-span. >> i watch on c-span the airing of congressional hearings and congressional deliberation on public policy and also information that is put out by the various think tanks here many washington d.c. i like to watch the main interview by brian lamb that are on sundays at 8:00 where he hosts different authors, and he has discussions, in-depth discussions about the books that they have written. and so it's just an easy way to get information that are in those books without having to read the books. >> wesley romans watches c-span on comcast. c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public service by your television provider. >> you're watching c-span2 with politics and public affairs. weekdays featuring live coverage of the u.s. senate. on weeknights, watch key public policy events and every weekend the latest nonfiction authors and books on booktv. you can see past programs and get our schedules at
then at 5:40 eastern, mitt romney and paul ryan hold a campaign rally in lancaster, ohio. our live coverage from the lancaster town center on c-span. >> i watch on c-span the airing of congressional hearings and congressional deliberation on public policy and also information that is put out by the various think tanks here many washington d.c. i like to watch the main interview by brian lamb that are on sundays at 8:00 where he hosts different authors, and he has discussions, in-depth...
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in part because of paul ryan who was on the commission and then voted against proposal. finish secondly, you're still up against the basic problem that if ryan had, in fact, voted for the simpson-bowles proposals and if they had gotten through congress with president obama's support, obama would get the credit. and he would be waltzing to, you know, a piece of cake re-election. so i do think -- and there's, actually, a third problem should be mentioned. peter orszag, the former head of the budget bureau, wrote an op-ed in "the new york times" saying, basically, contra my own instincts the problem with the united states is that there's too much democracy. we can't get anything done if we actually try to do it through elections and democratic procedures. what we need are ever more expert commissions that will make decisions for us. now, maybe that's true. but it should be recognized that if that is the solution to our problems, then we should stop prattling to other countries around the world that what they need is more democracy. because, in fact, we would have come to th
in part because of paul ryan who was on the commission and then voted against proposal. finish secondly, you're still up against the basic problem that if ryan had, in fact, voted for the simpson-bowles proposals and if they had gotten through congress with president obama's support, obama would get the credit. and he would be waltzing to, you know, a piece of cake re-election. so i do think -- and there's, actually, a third problem should be mentioned. peter orszag, the former head of the...
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to do tax reform and entitlement reform and his deputy, the majority leader, calls people like paul ryan, who is now running for vice president. .. >> if you keep doing this, you are going to risk your speakership. the president said when i talked to him, interestingly enough, he said in fixing -- he realizes the magnitude of all of this, as does speaker boehner, key democrats, key republicans realize what it is. and the president literally said to me, i would willingly lose an election if i could solve these problems. it is that serious. tim geithner, the treasury secretary, in the book is quoted thousands of words telling the president, you have got to do something about this problem. we have to fix it. you literally, it's not that we're going to close down the government, we will close down the american economy and, in turn, the global economy. if they do not solve the issue of this runaway spending, get some way to stop borrowing in excess, he tells the president of the united states if we default on this, on our obligations and our ious, we will trigger a depression worse than the 1
to do tax reform and entitlement reform and his deputy, the majority leader, calls people like paul ryan, who is now running for vice president. .. >> if you keep doing this, you are going to risk your speakership. the president said when i talked to him, interestingly enough, he said in fixing -- he realizes the magnitude of all of this, as does speaker boehner, key democrats, key republicans realize what it is. and the president literally said to me, i would willingly lose an election...